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WKTD

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Ghosts of artist past
« on: December 22, 2014, 05:58:41 am »

I don't know how deep I can go with this, but, if I were to go professional, would I necessarily feel obligated to censor my past works? If they were really behind me it would stand to reason that I wouldn't go out my way to censor them, as I know I am past that, and I don't care about the past.

Same idea would go for others who want to become professional, or more business oriented, why bother trying to cover up what happened before you went pro in the first place, it's not like someone has found a dead hooker in the trunk of your car, so why let it bother you, why bother trying to censor it.

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Re: Ghosts of artist past
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2014, 03:38:19 am »

This is something I've given a lot of thought to as a writer.  Given the only thing I've released for the masses to date is pregnant furry porn, my foray into more 'mainstream' work has been interesting.  Now, would I attempt to put some measure of distance between my 'professional' writing and my prior works? 

Yes.

Why, you may ask?  Because there are a lot of people out there who delight in tearing others down.  Even if you write a very good mystery novel, or great adventure series, those people will always attempt to drive others away from your works with cries of "HE WRITES FURRY PORN!!!"

Even if you're proud of your past endeavors, there are a lot of people out in the wider markets that will not be able to disassociate your porn works from your mainstream projects.  In effect, you'll always be that porn star that went mainstream, forever limited by your past and those that won't let it go.

If I ever do manage to finish this new project, I intend to ensure my mainstream and fetish pen names are never associated with one another, at least until I'm well established and don't care about it anymore. 

Just my two cents on the topic...
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WKTD

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Re: Ghosts of artist past
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2014, 05:32:19 am »

This is something I've given a lot of thought to as a writer.  Given the only thing I've released for the masses to date is pregnant furry porn, my foray into more 'mainstream' work has been interesting.  Now, would I attempt to put some measure of distance between my 'professional' writing and my prior works? 

Yes.

Why, you may ask?  Because there are a lot of people out there who delight in tearing others down.  Even if you write a very good mystery novel, or great adventure series, those people will always attempt to drive others away from your works with cries of "HE WRITES FURRY PORN!!!"

Even if you're proud of your past endeavors, there are a lot of people out in the wider markets that will not be able to disassociate your porn works from your mainstream projects.  In effect, you'll always be that porn star that went mainstream, forever limited by your past and those that won't let it go.

If I ever do manage to finish this new project, I intend to ensure my mainstream and fetish pen names are never associated with one another, at least until I'm well established and don't care about it anymore. 

Just my two cents on the topic...

There is a difference between distancing, and flat out censorship, I can understand trying to distance oneself in order to make yourself seem more pro, but I mean when one flat out tries to erase who they were when they were not mainstream, as if that version of them never existed.

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Re: Ghosts of artist past
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2014, 05:38:25 am »

This is something I've given a lot of thought to as a writer.  Given the only thing I've released for the masses to date is pregnant furry porn, my foray into more 'mainstream' work has been interesting.  Now, would I attempt to put some measure of distance between my 'professional' writing and my prior works? 

Yes.

Why, you may ask?  Because there are a lot of people out there who delight in tearing others down.  Even if you write a very good mystery novel, or great adventure series, those people will always attempt to drive others away from your works with cries of "HE WRITES FURRY PORN!!!"

Even if you're proud of your past endeavors, there are a lot of people out in the wider markets that will not be able to disassociate your porn works from your mainstream projects.  In effect, you'll always be that porn star that went mainstream, forever limited by your past and those that won't let it go.

If I ever do manage to finish this new project, I intend to ensure my mainstream and fetish pen names are never associated with one another, at least until I'm well established and don't care about it anymore. 

Just my two cents on the topic...

There is a difference between distancing, and flat out censorship, I can understand trying to distance oneself in order to make yourself seem more pro, but I mean when one flat out tries to erase who they were when they were not mainstream, as if that version of them never existed.

Most artists sometimes abandon their art depending on the current trends. If my "personal tastes" would result in me losing funding or publishers of said art
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Re: Ghosts of artist past
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2014, 05:55:58 am »

This is something I've given a lot of thought to as a writer.  Given the only thing I've released for the masses to date is pregnant furry porn, my foray into more 'mainstream' work has been interesting.  Now, would I attempt to put some measure of distance between my 'professional' writing and my prior works? 

Yes.

Why, you may ask?  Because there are a lot of people out there who delight in tearing others down.  Even if you write a very good mystery novel, or great adventure series, those people will always attempt to drive others away from your works with cries of "HE WRITES FURRY PORN!!!"

Even if you're proud of your past endeavors, there are a lot of people out in the wider markets that will not be able to disassociate your porn works from your mainstream projects.  In effect, you'll always be that porn star that went mainstream, forever limited by your past and those that won't let it go.

If I ever do manage to finish this new project, I intend to ensure my mainstream and fetish pen names are never associated with one another, at least until I'm well established and don't care about it anymore. 

Just my two cents on the topic...

There is a difference between distancing, and flat out censorship, I can understand trying to distance oneself in order to make yourself seem more pro, but I mean when one flat out tries to erase who they were when they were not mainstream, as if that version of them never existed.

Most artists sometimes abandon their art depending on the current trends. If my "personal tastes" would result in me losing funding or publishers of said art

I usually try not to go with the trends, as I hate having to jump on the bandwagon to try and bait people in, if someone is not fond of me not going after the latest trend, then, well, fuck 'em
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Re: Ghosts of artist past
« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2014, 04:03:32 pm »

I think it is entirely within the artist or writer's discretion whether or not their work should remain, especially if it can trace back to them in a negative light.

Unfortunately, there are jobs which do not necessarily believe there is such a thing as forgetting one's past.  I've seen a handful of situations in which a teacher, who was a model or porn star, was fired because of that previous experience.  Maybe they changed, but that one thing they did marks them and would ultimately hurt their current professional path.

This might also come back for artists.  Yes, some can handle tasteful nudes and the like, but straight pornographic material can turn off other areas, and sometimes the best thing to do is to shift away from that focus altogether, damn the consequences.
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« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2015, 09:02:06 am »

Even though this debate is probably no longer relevant now, I feel I should say something about it (especially now that I have a bit of time to actually discuss it).  =p

Anyway though, I think when it comes to censoring one's own work, that ultimately depends on their better judgment; but with that said, depending on just what exactly they did or used to create, it might be for the best if that person did censor themselves, especially if it has the potential to destroy one's own career.

For instance, a huge part of the reason why I use the name "SatsumaLord" is because I want to be able to distance/censor myself from what I do as a hobby, and what I hope to do as an actual career; especially since we live in that world now where all it takes is a Google search to dig up your past, and that Google search alone could mean all the difference between "getting that promotion" or even getting hired to begin with.

After all, if you were the head of a company and found out that the marketing guy you hired liked to draw "questionable" material on his time off, wouldn't you be concerned about the effect he'd have on your business; especially if it ever got out to the media at large?

Anyway, although I'm all for free speech and the idea of judging someone by their merits and abilities, rather than how they're different from you, at the same time, I think if you're truly concerned that your "past life" might catch back up to you, then it might be for the best to flat-out bury it, if not destroy it.
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WKTD

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Re: Ghosts of artist past
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2015, 02:01:43 pm »

Even though this debate is probably no longer relevant now, I feel I should say something about it (especially now that I have a bit of time to actually discuss it).  =p

Anyway though, I think when it comes to censoring one's own work, that ultimately depends on their better judgment; but with that said, depending on just what exactly they did or used to create, it might be for the best if that person did censor themselves, especially if it has the potential to destroy one's own career.

For instance, a huge part of the reason why I use the name "SatsumaLord" is because I want to be able to distance/censor myself from what I do as a hobby, and what I hope to do as an actual career; especially since we live in that world now where all it takes is a Google search to dig up your past, and that Google search alone could mean all the difference between "getting that promotion" or even getting hired to begin with.

After all, if you were the head of a company and found out that the marketing guy you hired liked to draw "questionable" material on his time off, wouldn't you be concerned about the effect he'd have on your business; especially if it ever got out to the media at large?

Anyway, although I'm all for free speech and the idea of judging someone by their merits and abilities, rather than how they're different from you, at the same time, I think if you're truly concerned that your "past life" might catch back up to you, then it might be for the best to flat-out bury it, if not destroy it.

Usually what I do is that I have two email addresses, and try not to keep the same username on sites unless it is for social networking purposes.
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